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Friday, April 5, 2019

25th Anniversary of a Tragic Suicide & a Multimorbid Conspiracy Theory (Update)

[updated May 6th, 2025 - added new Vernon Geberth interview about "Soaked in Bleach";
updated February 4, 2025 - added Vernon Geberth interviews / a new book about him]

by Silvia K.

Anniversaries are usually there to celebrate. But when it comes to Kurt Cobain's 25th anniversary we are not talking about his birthday, we are talking about a musician who died by suicide 25 years ago. Should this be celebrated? Definiately not. Should his music celebrated and suicide be discussed? Yes, absolutely! Should a murder plot be discussed? No! It's a bottomless pit... Human fantasy & opinions know no boundaries.

Over three years ago the filmmaker Benjamin Statler released the docu-drama "Soaked in Bleach" to the public. The movie details the events leading up to the death of Kurt Cobain as seen through the perspective of the former private investigator Tom Grant (license no. 16603). Grant was hired by musician and actress Courtney Love in a hurry to find her suicidal husband Kurt who quit rehabilitation for his Heroin addiction in the Exodus Recovery Center near Los Angeles after only one day.

The anterior intervention by his management, friends and his wife didn't succeed and Kurt flew back to Seattle. From there on conspiracy theories arose as to what exactly happened with Kurt until his lifeless body was discovered in a room above the garage of his own home on April 8th in the year 1994.

A clear case for Tom Grant & Benjamin Statler: Kurt Cobain was murdered. Was he? Not according to some experts in Statler's own movie. A year later they were interviewed about their involvement in the making of the fictitious film "Soaked in Bleach". [1, 2, 3] The, by conspiracy theorists glorified, movie suddenly appeared to be a great disservice to the general public and especially to Suicide Prevention, Mental Health Awareness and also to Heroin Addiction Awareness.


Vernon J. Geberth

[retired as the Commanding Officer of the Bronx Homicide Task Force; New York; has over 40 years law enforcement experience]

Geberth's conclusion in Cobain's death case was that Cobain died by suicide after he reviewed the Seattle Police Department's homicide information and after he interviewed one of the investigators who was in service at the time of the Kurt Cobain incident. His expert opinion is also based on his own experience with suicide cases. Geberth made his homework before he went to the "Soaked in Bleach" filming and responded to some 40 questions by the film producers. They repeatedly asked him questions about proper police procedures and basic death investigation in an attempt to show him that he agreed that Cobain was assassinated. He never agreed to such a thing but Statler's final cut makes it appear as if Geberth agreed. After Geberth was interviewed about his involvement in the movie, he again made clear, in a Facebook post and on his own website www.practicalhomicide.com, that he was not happy with the edited part of his interview. Geberth has worked his entire life for the community and his lifelong work can be purchased as a book "Practical Homicide Investigation" for educational purposes. The book text is used in most police academies, including the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia. It is a very interesting, disturbing and also very enlightening and heavy in weight book that Statler entirely missed to study before he invited Geberth to speak about the Cobain case.

Screenshots of Geberth's own written words:

 Screenshot from www.PracticalHomicide.com by Vernon Geberth - Research Material


Screenshot from the Facebook Site "Practical Homicide Investigation" by Vernon Geberth




Screenshot from the book "THE GODFATHER OF HOMICIDE SECOND EDITION: VERNON J. GEBERTH A COP'S COP" by Vince Cardillo (published October 16, 2024)



The 'Godfather of Homicide' Vernon Geberth talks with The Interview Room with Chris McDonough (January 31, 2025)



Carole E. Chaski

[Forensic Linguist]

Carole Chaski is another professional who did not exactly remain silent about her involvement in the making of "Soaked in Bleach". The forensic linguist stated that she was not happy with how her opinion about Kurt Cobain's suicide note was used to influence the murder narrative.

In correspondence with the California licensed attourney Kurt F., Chaski described how she utilized linguistic software known as SNARE ("Suicide Note Assessment Review"; formerly known as "Suicide Note Assessment Research") as part of her evaluation of the Greenhouse note discovered near Kurt Cobain’s body. The two-step procedure of suicide note authentification consists of

(quote:)


1. an evaluation and classification by SNARE of a questioned document 



[Screenshot of the SNARE-Kurt-Cobain-Document the filmmaker Benjamin Statler is in possession of; Update July 10, 2019],

SNARE Kurt Cobain Note


followed by



2. an analyst performing qualitative assessment of the questioned document to ensure SNARE's classification is not in error. 


[Screenshots of Chaski's Review-Document of the Kurt Cobain Suicide Note the filmmaker Benjamin Statler is in possession of; Update July 10, 2019]

Chaski Kurt Cobain Note Review 1
Chaski Kurt Cobain Review 2

These documents alone confirm a major deception and betrayal of audience trust being committed by the director Ben Statler with regard to the Kurt Cobain greenhouse note.

In an interview on October 9, 2017 with Alan Warren from the NBC News affiliate "House of Mystery Radio Show", Chaski explained her involvement with "Soaked in Bleach" by herself and pointed out that "There was a struggle going on among the producers [...]" and that they "would ask questions in one way and talk in another way off camera [...]". Listen to this [~ 56 minutes long]:



Snippet:

Another Snippet:

Carole Chaski exposes making of Benjamin Statler's hybrid movie "Soaked in Bleach" from Silvia K. on Vimeo.


John Fisk

[Paramedic Lt.; Medical Service Officer of the Seattle Fire Department]

Screenshot from "Soaked in Bleach"
John Fisk was yet another person briefly involved in Kurt Cobain's death case in 1994. Fisk took the emergency call during a normal shift as a first responder paramedic and went for a run to the Cobain property. He was the first person to enter the Greenhouse by breaking a glass panel on the locked French door. It was immediately evident to him and his colleques that the person found was a case of DOA (Death on Arrival; "fatality") because there was a recognizable gunshot wound to the head with a "significant pool of blood" at the floor by Cobain's head.

Fisk recalls his involvement with the docu-drama "Soaked in Bleach" in an interview on April 6, 2016 with the Mercer Island Reporter, who wrote that 

(quote:)

  • "he reiterated to the producers that he still believes the case remains a suicide"
  • "Fisk calls himself a bit of a skeptic when it comes to conspiracy theories, and says conspiracies seem to come up with any celebrity death."
  • "In a case of an obvious suicide, which from my limited experience with a crime scene, it looked like every other suicide I’ve seen."

Nothing of what he told about his experience with suicide cases to the reporter was mentioned in the film.


Norman H. Stamper

[retired as Chief of Police of the Seattle Police Department (1994 - 2000)]

Screenshot from "Soaked in Bleach"
In an E-Mail response to the author from October 13, 2016, an assistant for Norman Stamper noticed that, Mr. Stamper "doesn't want to focus on Kurt Cobain anymore". Maybe it is because Norman Stamper was Police Chief at the time Kurt Cobain died and was updated on the case which is backed up by the case files, involving another conspiracy theorist with the name of Richard Lee, who approached Mr. Stamper many times. It is impossible that Norman Stamper had no clue about Lee's efforts to get the case reopened.
Read and educate what went on at that time:



Reaction from filmmaker Benjamin Statler II


To this day, filmmaker Benjamin Statler II avoids to answer questions publically and professionally about his artistic efforts to change the narrative to Homicide. And of course he did not release uncut versions of certain expert's interviews.

In a Facebook comment that I spotted by accident, Benjamin Statler stated the following about the interview editings:


Facebook Screenshot


Needless to say that Benjamin Statler II had the great opportunity to interview independent experts about Kurt Cobain's death case but paints the expert opinions as invalid at the same time. If an independent expert's opinion does not mean anything to Mr. Statler, then to open a new investigation would be pointless, wouldn't it? 

With the help of Statler's movie, the Conspiracy Theory has become multimorbid and sounds like fingernails scratching on a chalkboard over and over again. It won't vanish but it will trigger discussion about suicide, mental health and addiction.


Krist Novoselić (former bassist for the Grunge music band NIRVANA) about "Soaked in Bleach" in his own words


Twitter Screenshot


Facebook Screenshot

Wednesday, February 8, 2017

The Aftermath of "Soaked in Bleach" - Part III

by Silvia K.

Seven months after this blog published two articles exposing the heavily edited interviews featured in the docu-drama “Soaked in Bleach“, fans of the fictitious movie still tweet on a daily basis how impressed they were after watching it. Nonetheless, there are still other people presented in the movie who haven’t had the opportunity to tell their experience in the involvement of the film. One of them is Ryan Aigner, an old friend of Kurt Cobain and Krist Novoselić who attended Aberdeen High School with them.

In August of 2015, Ryan Aigner was interviewed by Trevor Joe Lennon, almost a year before this blog was established. The interview was buried in the Aether of the Internet. But digging sometimes brings forth a piece of Gold. Mr. Lennon describes himself as a "marketing and radio personality“ and while browsing through his many interesting interviews, Lennon appears to be a dedicated man of 60s music.

During the interview Lennon and Aigner talk about the music scene of Aberdeen, Washington in relationship to Seattle and how Aigner’s relationship with the founding members of Nirvana developed. Aigner became close to Krist after attempting to start a band with Krist’s brother Robert. Krist later became something of a mentor to Aigner, sparking an interest in independent music. Later he dedicated his time managing Nirvana without a contract or any kind of financial support. The experience was a symbiosis of learning from Krist, Kurt and others and learning on the job. He therefore thinks the title of Nirvana’s “first manager“ is a little “misconstrued“.


Aigner was also encouraged by both musicians to develop and create his own musical projects. Nirvana supported Aigner's band Psychlodds and the band returned the favour, supporting Nirvana as an opening band on two shows. Before the days of the internet, Facebook, Twitter and smartphones, publicising gigs and bands was a very different experience. It was small, slow, lethargic and low budgeted. The shows were poorly attended, with scant advertisement running. The guys were “perfectly happy“ within their own world and “thrilled“ at having 20 metal heads attending a show. Later on Aigner helped to put on shows for several other bands such as Mundhoney, Melvins and Soundgarden.

Screenshot from "Soaked in Bleach"
Near the end of the interview Ryan Aigner tells Lennon a little bit about the docudrama “Soaked in Bleach“ explaining that he wasn't involved in the later years of Nirvana and had already stepped back prior the Geffen relationship. He thinks “the producers of Soaked in Bleach didn't realize that“ and “didn't do their homework“. The amateurish preparation for the interview led to an uncomfortable situation for Aigner.

We contacted Ryan Aigner for further clarification about his time on the set of “Soaked in Bleach“. Aigner is experienced in giving interviews. He told us that “usually people do not know how to interview“, they come ill prepared and don't know their subject matter. The familiar “Here we go again“ feeling was the case during the filming. He told us he has never watched “Soaked in Bleach“ but feels he has offered the producers a positive reflection on Kurt Cobain “as they were digging for negatives“. Three fourths of the questions they asked him he could not answer. He feels the producers hoped he would reflect on issues that he was not involved in. Frustrated and befuddled by his answers they tried a “classic bait“ but it didn't work out for them. Although the interview lasted about half of an hour the majority of it ended on the cutting room floor, and the result was not even a whole minute of the interview. Aigner thinks the movie might have the only purpose to sell something the public wants and would pay for, a niche for good sales. Aigner adds “I guess the truth can be kind of boring.“ When the time comes Aigner would like to share more stories about the “creative genius“ that Kurt was and about the whole group of people he met in the 80s. Some of those fascinating stories you can already read in the book “I Found My Friends: The Oral History of Nirvana“ by Nick Soulsby.

Snippet:

Ryan Aigner talks about movie "Soaked in Bleach" from Silvia K. on Vimeo.